and that goes for all plastic and mixed packaging………. I’ve skied in temps from about 10°F to the low 40’s°F, and in everything from cold pow to rained-on snow, and still feel like the glide in all conditions is quite good. You need a close to bluebird day for this. I’m sold. Any feedback would be appreciated! think i could do 177 by 93 and 177 by 78 with a single kit? Would it improve the low speed glide and when the wax starts wearing off give you a backup (at non-slow speeds)? In den nahen Ski-Resorts und dem angrenzenden Backcountry. When I picked up the skis from the snow to click in again, I was a little surprised to see that quite a bit of snow was sticking to the bases. Der Wailer ist außerdem ein Ski, der dich und deine Ski-Performance durch seine Vielseitigkeit und kontrollierte Fahrweise bei jeder Abfahrt verbessert. Modell Alchemist Wailer 112 RP2. It maybe — maybe — was the case that on Taos’ long return trail (“Around the World”) that takes you from chair 4 back to chair 1 at the base, maybe the Cassiar was a bit slower on long, flat sections than some of the other skis I was on? I have experienced a similar to what Robert Irvine have in warm conditions. I will say that the brush and cork they include isnt even worth much. After having skied them in colder conditions where glide is not as much of an issue I was able to test them against another brand new untreated and unwaxed pair of ski in warm april conditions. On one occasion, I had ice buildup on the bases during the transition from up to down. On cold days my skis feel slippery in the lift line, on warm days there is just a hint of initial stiction in the lift line. This model is essentially identical to the Wailer with the same balsa wood and carbon fiber construction, rocker/camber/rocker profile, and width dimensions. Why wouldn’t other ski manufacturers license the product and do the same? I have four days now on the Phantom-treated 18/19 DPS Cassiar 94, and I am extremely impressed so far with how the ski has glided on snow. I was skinning with my A/B test setup, the sun warmed my skis. right off the lift into deep powder, in the trees, the skis worked great. If not, then get a stiff nylon brush that will brush off the excess material after the last product cure. Most skiers/boarders have their own kit. At least for my 5 days of sking the skis felt great. next you said ” Each day the product sat in full sun from about 10am until dusk” (hmm…). While having some wet snow stick to my skis while stationary was a little surprising, it is something we were told to expect by the folks at DPS. They performed both equally awfull when it came to gliding (granted, that’s to be expected from untreated ski in warm conditions). For 100$ i feel they could have done better with that. We were doing a lot of ski swapping over the past four days, and I can say that the Cassiar 94s felt fast, and no ski I was on (well, other than the HEAD i.Speed Pro, which is simply a search-and-destroy missile of a ski) felt noticeably faster or offered better glide. For the ultimate, you can wax over Phantom. So, what’s the opinion on this for a Tahoe/Mammoth skier? I wish they would not include the brushes. Specifically, I was told that Phantom “behaves differently than wax, since…it isn’t wax. The base didn’t seem to pick up as much dirt and grime as other boards there and I was able to ride comfortably through the park and had few issues with speed until it was 75+outside. DPS is about the mystery encountered in a slide across deep snow. And if I continue to get this same degree of performance from Phantom as I get more time on these skis — i.e., if Phantom is still performing at day 30 as it has on these first 4 days (as it’s supposed to), then I will be sold. Und wo lassen sich diese Innovationen am besten so richtig testen? When the temps rose and the snow got even slushier, I thought the skis treated with Phantom had slightly better glide than those without. The Cassiar 95 actually performed more like the Enforcer 93 at sp… I love flying across the flats and traverses, to get to the goods ahead of the crowds. My guess is that you cant scrape and buff skis properly in the first place (chris, the wax and buff process isnt described as finicky either, but it sucks to suck). Even after the powder was skied over and groomer runs the next morning, no problems at all. replace or reglue ?. But I would not consider that snow true warm snow. I planned to use them in March so I used the best sunny days i could get in February in Germany with 5 hours of sunlight and only little clouds each. You pay a serious premium for the high-end materials and extensive R&D from DPS Skis—the Pagoda Piste 90 costs a double-take-worthy $1,299—but it’s hard to knock the final product. Usually I notice this when I take my skis off to transition, as there is often a few chunks of snow stuck to the bases. We had 3 days entirely in the back country and I did not experience any issues with the skins not sticking to the base of the skis. I opted to just toss them down, click in, and ski away, and this was all it took to get back to excellent gliding. My examples were well used and the product seems to do everything it’s makers claim. Wish I could be more help but I’ve only skied my Phantom treated skis one day in May at Mt Bachelor. I have Phantom on 3 skis now, and have a full season on my first pair. I just got back from a 7 day ski trip at steamboat, co. or maybe do 177 by 93, 177 by 78 and 177 by 115 with 2 kits? However, I since contacted the dps support and they have been very forthcoming and will send me a new package to apply in summer. The other plank was clear. (We covered the introduction of Phantom in this article and on this blister podcast). I will be treating all of my skis with Phantom. If you haven’t already, you should definitely check out our conversation with DPS founder, Stephan Drake, and the lead chemist behind Phantom, Jeff Bates. Performance: TIA. I’m going to do a separate writeup on the application process, and here, I’m going to stick to performance. After only a few days, I’m definitely not ready to fully endorse all of DPS’ claims about Phantom, but so far, things seem to be working as advertised. Ditto the above with part B. I replied and asked for a new brush and got no response, and no brush either. I would say that this description exactly reflects my experience so far. I plan to put some on my cross country skis because it works well and should last forever. Have done about 12 trips or so on it. I’ve had 4 days on the Phantom-treated Superguide 105’s, paired with Colltex Camlock Mix Whizz skins. Then dripped on the part A and rubbed in with applicator. A list of ski reviews for DPS, ordered chronologically. A quick brush with my glove tends to easily clear the base. So keep an eye out for updates, but so far, so good. Das WPS-Modell A112 von DPS, getestet in Länge 184, hat bei Neveitalias Testern im Schnee von Livigno Carosello 3000 reichlich Zustimmung erhalten. The Cassiar 95 actually surprised our testers when pushing the ski to high speeds. Any more updates on this for warmer snow? But as soon as the initial friction between the base and snow is overcome you’ll have great glide.”. Fairness: DPS verlagerte die Produktion von China zurück in die USA. If it performs as advertised, this single-application alternative to standard base wax could revolutionize the way people slide on snow. 25F in the morning and 35-40 in the afternoon. Recently, things got a bit warmer with temperatures in the high 20’s to low 30’s, and we received 10-12” of high moisture-content snow. Obviously I don’t want to materially impair the Phantom performance or longevity. But I wouldn’t wager a single dollar that this was actually true. It seems when the temperatures rose above +4 Celsius the Phatom stopped working and actually increased the friction to absurd levels for a “glide treatment”. Rather than grind the skis to deal with this (expensive and too frequent), I am looking into the possibility of wiping down the bases with a rag and mineral spirits, which works for other skin glue cleanup. 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Der dritte im Bunde ähnelt dem Wailer in seiner Vielseitigkeit. I do it all the time for people (95% g3 skins), usually take a few passes to clean it up. I would stay away from base cleaner and I think mineral spirits sounds very harsh too. 18th November 2020. Founded by Stefan Drake (the D in DPS) DPS has built a cult following since its inception in 2005. obviously, specific waxes in extremes will outperform phantom in circumstances and be faster for racing; my customers understand that. I’m not sure what conclusion to draw here other than perhaps the application does not take quite as well to an older base. You complained about the brush being inadequate(i guess you dont have any) and also mentioned that you had no interest in doing ski maintenance. I just spent three days on the 18/19 DPS Cassiar A79 treated with Phantom on both very firm, early-morning groomers, and then on very soft late-afternoon snow at Taos, with temperatures ranging from around 25°F to well into the 40’s. Share. As I recall now, I applied and removed part A one day, and then applied and removed part B on the next day. I also did something after application of Phantom that was a little different. Read honest and unbiased product reviews from our users. DPS’s Phantom Glide treatment has been receiving a lot of attention, and for good reason. The final straw had to be when I was skiing in St. Anton on a warmish day, (40 degrees and sunny) conditions that are supposed to be where the Phantom product excels, and every person I was skiing with was passing me. Thanks all …. Because if it did, I would be 100% out on the product. When we got a few inches of cold / light snow, the Wailer 106 continued to glide well without any hint of extra drag from the new cold crystals. A waxed ski might have done the same thing, I am not sure, but the serious braking effect was noticeable and almost made me face plant. Being like any two part system, you can tell when it has cured as the product no longer just wipes off, and becomes quite tacky. All DPS ski models with detailed information, ski test, video and tecnical details. But when you get into your run, and you’re skiing fast, they work just fine. Other than not getting wax on skins, do you really think it performs much better or can you possibly distinguish it from a fast, high quality base? After using the product myself and and reading many more reviews by blister and other people with strong tech knowledge it sounds like a bad application to me. I have yet to receive negative feedback from any customers about phantom so far( i use it myself). Ski ; Allmountain Ski ; Freeride Ski ; Racecarver ; Slalomcarver ; Twin-Tip / Freestyle ; Skidatenbank . Der „Koala“ ist die neue Backcountry-Freestyle-Waffe der Crew um Mastermind Ste­phane Drake.Der breite Twintip wurde den Teamridern Dash Longe, Piers Solomon und Santiago Guzman an die Boots geschneidert, deren Runs vor Krea­tivität strotzen. Differences include swapping the blue topsheet design for purple, and a shorter 158 … I think with Phantom-treated skis, it is even more important to keep your bases out of the sun during transitions to mitigate icing. dps Wailer A112 Uschis Bruder, der Wailer A112, ist ebenso spielerisch im Pulverschnee, wie auch griffig auf eisigen Untergründen. I called DPS and asked what the main goal was after the “B” application. I’m considering having the 2.0 version applied to new skis by a shop with a curing station. Compare the best and latest DPS skis with expert advice from ski reviews. It is not faster than wax, but I don’t think its any slower either. The day that convinced me was nothing special. Temperatures where at 5 to 10 degrees Celsius, whatever that translates to in Fahrenheit. After having used Phantom for the entire season, I can honestly say that I am not impressed. On snow, I’ve had a very similar experience as Paul. DPS Yvette 112RP2 (2015) Ski Gear Reviews. I too was in Germany and will say the cure process, though UV activated, is certainly affected by temperatures. I think Phantom is great for splitboards, which traditionally can take extra time scraping out wax from the hardware so it does not stick to skins as well as the regular wax scrape off. I’ve spent several days touring on the Scott Superguide 105 that I treated with Phantom myself. fyi, dirtbag kickstarter customer who wants a refund on his discounted ski product at the end of the season might be worse than a backcountry customer. I’d like to believe Phantom is awesome and the solution to our wax problems, but I’m not convinced. Photo courtesy of DPS When I got on the Zelda 106 Tour1 skis for the first time in the Crested Butte, Colo. backcountry, I immediately realized my so-called friends had lied. It seems like the glide is about as good as universal wax, or possible as good as no wax. Stephan and Jeff go over the development of Phantom and the details of how it works: And we are now putting time on several skis and boards that have been treated with Phantom, and will be posting updates here as we continue to get more time on the product. Unlike you Spencer, I do not rush to judgement about anything. DPS skis have a great reputation and a robust following. 2018. “I would have liked to have somehow saved the product that I wiped off the skis” They also understand that maintenance to skis like grinds, bevels and base repair are still needed. I’d say that it delivers. I was not thrilled with Phantom after day one, but thought perhaps it needed to get skied on more for top performance, but that never happened. 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